![]() ![]() I don't think 6 hours is unreasonable particularly if you have children and need to make several stops for food and gas and if there is traffic such as a 3 day weekend but otherwise most of the people I know make it there in well under 6 hours and around 5-5.5 hours. I wasn't driving a 100 mph either and I'm no speed demon. ![]() There were no border patrol checkpoints and I only stopped to get gas. I wasn't driving close to 100 mph and I made it in just under 5 hours. The estimate I received was based on downtown Phoenix which stated it was 355 miles away. You live in the northern most part of Phoenix so obviously it will take you longer You are nearly 30 miles north of downtown. I didn't think anyone would literally assume I was stating I-8 was in Phoenix. I wrote I-8 with the understanding that people knew I meant the I-8 route versus taking I-215. It's has taken me seven hours before, even when I was doing close to 100 mph whenever I got the chance. I've done this trip on a motorcycle and in a Porsche with a radar detector many times. Nevermind the two or three Border Patrol checkpoints on I-8 than sometimes have traffic stopped. From I-10 you have to take 85 around 30 miles to Gila Bend to get to I-8. It takes me well over five hours and I am a speed demon. I just got back from San Diego and remember reading how insane responses about the drive times. And if you live in the south valley (Chandler), it's even closer. If you are being a speed demon, it's closer to 4 hours. If drive 10 miles over the speed limit like most people, you will make it to San Diego in under 5 hours. This is assuming you are going the speed limit. On google maps, it states the distance from Phoenix to San Diego is 355 mles away on I-8W, it states the approximate driving time by car is 5 hours and 25 minutes. 7 hours to San Diego!? Most people I know make it to San Diego between 4.5-5.5 hours. Naishadham reported from Washington, D.C.I've learned this forum doesn't represent the real world and this is another example. and incur the cost of developing a whole new water supply versus purchase land that is probably more expensive without the boundaries of a designated city.” “It closes off that path,” said Kathryn Sorenson, director of research at the Kyl Center for Water Policy at Arizona State University.īecause the rule largely affects cities and towns outside Phoenix and larger cities in the metro area, Sorenson said developers would likely “weigh whether they want to continue to buy relatively cheap land. Under the new restrictions, that won’t be possible. “Developers rely on groundwater because it has been frankly, cheaper and easier for them, and they have been able to move through the process much more quickly,” said Nicole Klobas, chief counsel for the Arizona Department of Water Resources. In rapidly growing Phoenix suburbs such as Queen Creek and Buckeye, developers have relied on unallocated groundwater to show that they had adequate water supplies for the next 100 years, which Arizona requires for building permits in some areas. Long pumped by farmers and rural residents in Arizona with little oversight, Hobbs and other state officials recently vowed to take more steps to protect the state’s groundwater supplies. But in rural areas, there are few limitations on its use. Under a 1980 state law aimed at protecting the state’s aquifers, Phoenix, Tucson and other Arizona cities have restrictions on how much groundwater they can pump. The drought has made groundwater - held in underground aquifers that can take many years to be replenished - even more vital. A small amount of the city’s water supply comes from groundwater and recycled wastewater. Phoenix relies on imported Colorado River water and also uses water from the in-state Salt and Verde rivers. ![]() Over the past two years, Arizona’s supply from the 1,450-mile powerhouse of the West has been cut twice. ![]() Much of the focus has stayed on the dwindling Colorado River, a main water source for Arizona and six other Western states. Years of drought in the West worsened by climate change have ratcheted up pressure among Western states to use less water. Hobbs added that there are 80,000 unbuilt homes that will be able to move forward because they already have assured water supply certificates within the Phoenix Active Management Area, a designation used for regulating groundwater. ![]()
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